Re: lovegender, reptillianbrain,looong.

AwiNoquisi (awinoquisi@aol.com)
11 Oct 1997 02:38:37 GMT

Ringchild,
To a certain extent, I agree with you. Why try to label Creator as male or
female? Who are we tiny beings to question? However, my own personal belief
is that GreatSpirit is both male and female, yet is neither at the same time.
I don't see Creator as asexual, though, because there are male and female of
almost every single one of his/her children (amoeba, certain bacteria, et al
are exempt for some reason. Lol!). I could fill a book on this subject, I
think! Hahaha! This is just my belief anyway... I think each person has to
follow his/her heart in this kind of a matter.

Lovin You and All,
Julia ; )

>Subject: Re: lovegender, reptillianbrain,looong.
>From: "ringchild" <kring@mail.eclipse.net>
>Date: Fri, Oct 10, 1997 00:09 EDT
>Message-id: <01bcd532$3ddff5e0$67c4cfcf@dcr>
>
>
>> Actually, Sky, in the same OT class, we learned that the original wording
>of
>> Hebrew said: God made man in OUR image.
>> Originally, the Hebrews did look at God as both Mother and Father. You
>can
>> find it in the texts--in Proverbs, I think it was, God wsa described as
>being
>> the protective father and as the murturing mother. Somewhere along the
>line,
>> they began to look at God as completely male. So interesting, huh?
>>
>> Lovin You,
>> Julia
>>
>> (a note from a new guy) There's actually quite a lot of feminine imagery
>of related to God and the Spirit in the bible. There's a few good books
>i've seen (one by Virginia Mollenkott, I believe). If anyone's interested,
>i can dig them up and give you any info that'll help you find them... It's
>a difficult subject, however, for those of us for whom ancient hebrew or
>koine greek is not a native tongue (i.e., everyone). A "masculine" image
>of God is actually reinforced by the english language... In languages like
>greek and hebrew, every noun has a gender. So a tree is a "he" and a boat
>is "she." a fish is a he, whether it is a male or female fish. and god
>happens to be "he." The unfortunate thing that happens when these
>languages are translated to english is that fish and trees and boats all
>become "its" but God remains "he." When in fact, god is just as assexual
>as a boat. Unfortunately, also, is that our idea of "masculinity" is so
>twisted. but i suppose that's a whole other subject... We cannot be
>surprised, though, that western minds would mistake analogical portraits
>of God as scientific descriptions...
> Well, i guess the real point is that if one were seeking the spirit
>and seeking truth, instead of seeking to preserve empty notions - and if we
>have experienced any degree of interaction with the Spirit - we would find
>it quite ridiculous to speak of God in any gender specific terms. In fact,
>it's often difficult to use words at all, which is why we cry out to the
>Spirit in pure syllables which express what words could never...

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