Re: I thought this was about gatherings

BJ (jpb@efn.org)
Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:16:23 -0700 (PDT)

Well good luck Paul, your opinion seems to belong to a very small minority.
I too recently posted such opinions. I even changed my attitude to wishing
MORE relevant stuff relating to rainbow/gatherings were present on AGR (vs.
saying the other unrelated threads should be elsewhere). Of course this only
led to mostly silence or comments defending how "rainbow & important" those
threads are to a "rainbow" newsgroup.
I agree most of the threads you mention do indeed have whole newsgroups
dedicated to those topics, but folks seem to want to use this newsgroup for
any subject under the sun.

It's just a shame all that energy folks spend on writing posts to AGR is
focused on things that have little to do with improving our Gatherings or
our Family. But like I said before, it's easier for folks to talk about
things that don't require personal change in them than it is to discuss
something that might mean they have to "do" something to make change or
voice an unpopular opinion on something so close to home…. I often times
think most folks in our family have come to have no "voiced" opinions on
many rainbow subjects for fear of being considered "un-rainbow". I fear we
are slowly becoming very PC in our group thinking so as not to "offend"
anyone or way of thinking (some of the same stuff we put society down for
in general we seem to do ourselves). People seem to construe "no rules" as
meaning "no opinion", whatever.
OOPS! getting a little cynical, better stop before I'm corrected once again
for insinuating such threads aren't "relevant" to a "rainbow" newsgroup or
of having an "attitude".

Thanks for your post Paul (and your opinion :) ..... BJ

P.S. Do stick around, every once in awhile actual "rainbow" topics ARE
discussed here :)

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At 09:40 AM 10/25/97 -0700, Paul J. Lucas wrote:
>I wrote:
>
>> I was under the impression from the name that this newsgroup
>> was about upcoming rainbow gatherings. In the two or so weeks
>> I've been scanning it, there seems to be precious little posted
>> on that subject.
>
>> Did I misundertand something?
>
> to which the following responded:
>
>On Wed, 22 Oct 1997 Glenn Battin wrote:
>
>> Also, rainbow related topics like how we can help each other, grow in love,
>> deal w/medical challenges wholistically, poetry, occasional flames,
>> photos of gatherings, recipes, etc. In short such a diversity of things
>> that have a common thread of LOVE and Light from every perspective
imaginable.
>
> Common thread of "love?" The following are some of the topics
> of posts that lead me to make my original post:
>
> 1. The Cassini launch
> 2. Interior bill
> 3. Martin L. King
> 4. American Airlines
> 5. The homeless
> 6. Star Trek
> 7. Townhouse available in Palo Alto
>
> Topics 1-5 are political and thus are probably more appropriate
> to a political discussion newsgroup; 6 is sci-fi and thus is
> probably more appropriate in a sci-fi group; and 7 belongs in a
> housing newsgroup or in the ba.* newsgroup hierarchy.
>
> I am a great fan of "everything to its place." I have little to
> no interest in any of the above topics.
>
>On 23 Oct 1997 14:47:03 Madelyn Powell wrote:
>
>> all topics are rainbow!
>
> I hope not. If that were the case, then Usenet would consist
> of only one newsgroup. Luckily, Usenet consists of thousands
> of newsgroups, each to its own topic. I would venture that
> topics posted in comp.compilers, ba.transportation, soc.motss,
> alt.personals.fetish, and others, are most certainly not
> rainbow.
>
>> Just think, it wasn't all that long ago that no-one knew about vegetarianism,
>> yoga, recycling, the ozone layer, herbalism, the i ching, or massage or
>> chiropractic therapies, muchless reflexology and accupuncture!
>
> Ignoring the gross inaccuracy of that statement (yoga, i ching,
> massage, and accupuncture have been known to humankind for
> thousands of years) and also ignoring the relegation of all of
> Eastern culture, the Chinese in particular, to be under the
> umbrella of "no one" (my, what an arrogant, Western-centric
> viewpoint!), all of the aforementioned topics have their own
> newsgroups.
>
>> So any topic that concerns or enlightens any of us is free game,
>
> By that reasoning, I should be able to discuss developing web
> software on Solaris platforms here since, in terms of my job, I
> find that enlightening.
>
>> because we also believe in the first amendment
>
> That statement expresses a far-too-common fallacy of thinking.
> Discussing topics in the right place is not anti-first
> amendment nor is it pro-censorship. Discussing topics in the
> right place relies (far too heavily, IMHO) on people to use
> common sense to post in the right place. Usenet, for better or
> worse, mirrors real discussion groups in the world. Just as
> you wouldn't discuss needlepoint on the Senate floor, or racing
> cars in a breast-cancer support group, topics not related to
> rainbow gatherings should not be discussed here...IMHO.
> Otherwise you get a Tower of Babble, poor signal-to-noise
> ratio, (pick your favorite analogy).
>
>> If this were just an event calendar, it would be dull, dull, dull...
>
> Granted. But I never said it should be. I'm merely saying
> that topics with a heavy political slant, science fiction, and
> available housing aren't on-topic.
>
> Discussing *where* events should take place is on-topic. (I
> assume that somebody simply doesn't pull a date and location
> out of a hat and that it's discussed first.) Reports of past
> gatherings are on-topic. Advice for new-comers (e.g., what
> should one *bring* and *not* bring to a gathering) is on-topic.
> An FAQ is on-topic. Describing what generally goes on at
> gatherings is on-topic. Suggestions of other events (hikes,
> trips, sight-seeing tours) for rainbow-minded folk is on-topic.
> I could go on.
>
>On 22 Oct 1997 Karl-Heinz Jackson wrote:
>
>> Uh...were you looking for a rainbow newsgroup or a date listing? If the
>> latter, check out http://www.welcomehome.org (that's where you'll find info
>> over rainbow events as well as lots of other useful links and info).
>
> Thanks for the info (although the site was down as of 9:00 PDT).
>
>> PS- that's a REAL unfriendly email adress: "Nobody Write, Nobody
>> Welcome, I Ain't Here!" ;-)
>
> It should (?) be obvious that the e-mail address is intended
> for spammers. Those who REALLY want to contact me by e-mail,
> as opposed to posting a follow-up, have merely to use their
> favorite web search engine. I'm not difficult to find.
>
> - Paul
>
>

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