> Madelyn Powell wrote:
>
> > hey now!
> >
> > well, here we go again. A regional family has a right to do anything
> > it wants.
>
> Where, then, does one apply for membership to that regional family- and
> to which authority does one appeal, if some declare the bellybutton
> doesn't come with attached credentials? If we don't sign anything- how
> can we be banned for lack of adoption papers?
>
>>>depends on the regional family I guess,
>
> > anarchy is for everyone. There is no national authority
> > that has the right to impose on, or land on, or blockade anyone's
> > council, if they've been uninvited.
>
> And who is it that is in charge, and able to uninvite?????
> >>>>>> the local family, via consensus, of course!
> > Some of the more agressive Region
> > 16 attempted to do that two weeks prior
> > to a Katuah Thanksgiving council I hosted on private land, and I
> > would not allow it.
>
> Then you must be in charge??
>>>>> You bet I was "in charge" of and responsible for the land I was
given responsibility for, and paying for, as in all the bills....
these folks were so drunk when they called no less than 20 times that
it was obvious they weren't showing up two weeks early to do anything
other than bum from me, my local community, and abuse my hospitality.
Does that mean that You will now sign the > permits?? >
>>>>>>>> Haven't ever even considered it. Don't think they should be
needed on public land
> > However, attendance at the council was open,
> > during the dates of the council. (as long as there was no alchohol!)
>
> Did a full consensus declare that- including those you have deemed below
> your high standards- those "A-campers" for instance?
>>>>> Yes, at Katuah Solstice that year, we consensed that there
would be no alchohol at the council, because that was a condition of
my offer to open my space to it... There were several A-campers
present at Harmons Den that year, as I recall, and none of them
seemed to have a problem with it, in fact, they seemed to agree with
me that sacred space is a great time to not drink... looking back, I
was an alchoholic waiting to drink enough at that point myself, and
I did not ever drink at gatherings, or engage in the abusive,
intimidating behavior I've witnesses at A-camps at large gatherings.
Katuah has always managed to avoid A-camp pretty well, we have
always agreed that any drinking that folks do should be within the
privacy of their own camps, but not encouraged it in any way... I
can't remember ever having an A-camp movie at either a Katuah or
Piedmont Gathering, except prior to North Carolina... and following
it,...
> > It could be that these folks are trying to avoid the landing upon
> > their decision making process of known consensus blockers, drinkers,
> > arguers, whatever... drainbows, as it were.
>
> Those less than tip-top quality family members... as if we all
> weren't.??
>>>>>> No-one's tip-top, I sure don't claim to be!
> > They have a right to choose.
>
> Who- Which authority?
> >>>>>> any consensed bunch of folks that choose to call themselves
rainbow
> > And no-one has a right to say anything is or is not
rainbow. >
> And George Bush and Jr. could call a Texas Rainbow Gathering? Allowing
> only say... contributors to the Repub. Natl. Party to their private
> little black-tie-RFOLL gathering? Wow! Really!? That's the sort of
> thing that would make me turn in my card- if we were card carrying.
>>>>>>>>> very funny concept, have they ever been invited? bet we
would all learn a lot from practicing loving tolerance of those who's
beliefs are radically different from our own, especially within our
family, the family of man... republican, anglican, red-neck, drunks,
as well as the hip and politically correct are all rainbow in my
book, some of them just haven't realized it yet... and may not in
this lifetime, though I sure have faith that the whole human race
will continue to evolve past the need to control how other folks
believe...
> > It cuts both ways, folks, if we don't want an organization, and
we
> > say that everyone is rainbow, then hey, everyone who so chooses can
> > have any kind of gathering they want, and call it whatever they want.
>
> Oh Please! And we can also say exclusive inclusion don't cut the cole
> slaw.
>
> > Loving ya'll,
>
> Lovin' ya back bunches!
>
> > and our Freedom, and lack of Authority!
>
> Ho!
>
> > maddy clare
> >
>
> Please don't throw me out of the family,
> even if you want to exclude me from your private party! I'd promise to
> be good, but you would probably realize I have my fingers crossed.
>
>>>>>> certainly not the point of my post, bro, the point was in fact
that you can't be thrown out of the family, period. Even George or
Ronnie are members of the family, again, they just haven't gotten far
enough on the path to realize it yet. Maybe the next lifetime for
them, and sooner for the rest of us, eh?
here's hoping!
love,
hugs,
and peace,
maddy clare
"bob" > > > > > i was told this by happydrum@aol.com:
> > > "Handy......theDallas Family chooses to keep the site secret for
> > now, as this
> > > IS NOT a Regional, and NOT OPEN to the entire Rainbow Family. It
> > is by invite
> > > only. The site is on private land.">Subject: Re: Dallas Gathering
> > > private??????
> > > >From: X989@aol.com
> > > >Date: Wed, Oct 1, 1997 10:40 EDT
> > > >Message-id:
> > >
> > ><971001102855_1866064248.alt.gathering.rainbow@emout14.mail.aol.com>
> > > >
> > > >In a message dated 97-10-01 04:06:08 EDT, you write:
> > > >
> > > ><< hey now family, i'm new to the family and i was just told that
> > an upcoming
> > > > Dallas Family Gathering is not open to the whole Family, that
> > it's not a
> > > > regional Gathering. This doesn't sound like the Rainbow Family i
> > have been
> > > > reading about. is this a normal practice for Gatherings held on
> > private
> > > >land?
> > > > Please E-mail any comments, your humble opinion is requested.
> > > > thanks,
> > > > peace and long life,
> > > > HandyDanD@aol.com >>
> > > >
> > > >was told by whom?--if you are going to create a situation please be
> > more
> > > >specific
> > > >
> > > >gatherings are generally not held on private land--if and when they
> > are, it
> > > >would seem it is the option of the land owner to do as they please,
> > however
> > > >when folks are excluded for other than behavior/respect movies, in
> > my opinion
> > > >it is no longer a rainbow gathering but rather a private
> > > >campout/party-----------s
> > > >
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